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Domain Backorder, Buying a Domain Before It Expires, Buying a Domain in Advance

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Hello,

I found a pleasant article on domain purchasing techniques, which I have been looking for a solution for a long time, although it is an old article, I can say that it was almost the healthiest result I got when I searched on google.

It gives information about a system, a few addresses and pre-buying, trading, sorting and auction systems that I think friends who will buy domains should take a look at beforehand.

Come in.

An unlimited number of people can backorder (pre-order) the same domain in Snapnames. None of them pay any fees at any time, except for the new owner of the domain. If Snapnames catches that domain, an increase is made among the people who made the backorder. At Snapnames, you only pay if the domain is transferred to you.

Godaddy is asking $18 for backorder. Only one person can backorder a domain. If someone else wants to backorder the same domain name, the system will not allow it. Now you will say, “then the first backordered person lived.” No it's not. If Godaddy is successful in catching the domain (which they only manage to catch their own domains and completely wasted domains) they will take that $18 from you and then start an open auction for everyone to participate. Your name will be written as the first bidder with $18.

The $18 you paid to Godaddy is waiting inside. If that domain doesn't exist, then you set the $18 credit inside to monitor another domain. Godaddy backorder is a sucker trap. Stay away.

You have made a correct determination that a quality domain will not just go to waste. As a matter of fact, I am trying to follow all Turkish and quality domains. I'm watching before the recording period expires.

Recently, the owner of the Turkmuzik.com domain renewed the domain one day before it expired. It got us a little excited. As a result, I have an A-list of 4500 domains and a B-list of 90 thousand domains, which I have prepared for months. If any quality Turkish domain goes to waste, I'll be the first to know. Of course, there are many domainers like me.

Soon, in two weeks, a very high quality domain goes to waste. This is a person's name. I'll explain it after the case is closed.

Mirtürk has explained the issue, but I would like to explain the backorder issue in a neat way. I explained it in simple language, thinking of others.

When 'registration expired' in the explanations below is meant, domains whose registration date has expired but have not yet expired are meant. The 'expiry date' and the 'expiry date' are two different things. Among them is a period that usually takes 85 days but is shorter for godaddy.

Even though a domain's registration date has expired, it may seem like another year has been added to it in the whois query. When it is said that the registration date has expired, I refer to the actual situation, not according to the whois information.

So why does it appear as if the domain has expired but has added a year to it?
Let me explain it this way: There are companies that we call Registrar (writing, domain company), and there is a center that we call registry (central writing). For example, godaddy is a registrar, while verisign is the central registrar for the com, net and edu extensions.

The clerks must forward the information to the central clerk. Whether the domain will drop or not is determined by the date in the central registry. Writers also transfer information to whois servers. These servers are useful for us to do whois query. However, the scribes sometimes send other information to the whois server to another central registrar.

For example, it says expiry date 26-Aug-2008 as seen in this picture. This date is the registration end date at the register level. However, when you scroll down, it says 26-Aug-2007 at the central clerk level. There are also pending delete and expired articles. The information marked in red in the picture (expiry date and status) gives misleading information. The information marked in green shows the actual situation.

By looking carefully at the information other than the expiry date in the whois information, it can be understood whether the domain name is registered at the central register level or not.

Another method is to open the domain and look at it. For example, when you open the istanbulguitar.com domain name and look at it, a page like this appears. As you can see, there is an expired text below.

Another method is to perform a whois query one day before the registration deadline and when the registration date is over. If a year added to the domain is added on the last day, it was most likely added by the company, and this added year does not indicate that the domain will not go to auction, on the contrary, it shows that it will go to auction.

The most reliable method is to display the auction date on the snapnames site as described below.

If these seem confusing to you, follow the steps below.

DOMAIN BACKORDER

  1. On any whois query site, for example, you type the domain here and search. According to the result of the query, you find the company (registrar) where the domain is registered.

If the registrar is 'Godaddy' or a godaddy company 'wild west domains' go to number 2.
If the registrar is any other company, go to number 3.
At the time of this writing there was no namejet.com auction site and network solutions domains were going to the snapnames system. So the current situation is as follows:

a. If your registrar is "godaddy" or "wild west domains", the domain automatically goes to tdnam.com.
b. If your register is “enom”, “network solutions” or “BulkRegister”, the domain automatically goes to namejet.com system. So the auction is held at namejet.
c. You should use snapnames.com for domains other than those, and especially for domains registered in the moniker.

  1. godaddy
    You open the domain and look. Do you have a parking page similar to this one? If available, go to 2.2. Otherwise, go to 2.1.

2.1. "No not."
Then it means that the registration date of that domain has not expired. Wait until it's full. The parking page will be placed on the day the registration deadline expires.
A question may come to mind:
“I want to backorder before the registration deadline. How is it going to be?"
You won't do this because we never backorder domains registered with Godaddy or wild west domains.

If you backorder and the registration date never expires, that is, if the domain registration is extended by the owner, you will not be able to get the domain. If you backorder and the registration expires, the domain will go to auction again as if no one has backordered. You will be the first to bid. Therefore, whether you make a backorder or not, the domain goes to auction after a period of registration expires. That's why you wait without doing anything until you see the parking page in godaddy domains.

2.2. "Yes there is."

2.2.1 Click on the link shown in red here on the Godaddy park page. This link will take you to the auction page on tdnam.com.

If the auction hasn't started yet, you'll see a table like this with blank information here. It means that the registration period has not been 18 days yet. Wait for 18 days, open the domain again, click the same link and come to the auction page.

All godaddy or wild west domains are put up for auction, without exception, after the registration deadline and before they go to waste. If there is no participant in the auction, godaddy domains will not just go to waste. Again on the tdnam site, this time it goes to the fire sale stage for 5 dollars. If you've been wandering around tdnam and wondering what 'fire sale' means, here are the domains that were sold for $5 before they went down because they didn't get any bids at the auction. In the fire sale system, an annual registration fee is paid in addition to 5 dollars. It comes to $14 total.

2.2.2. The tdnam auction page that opens will look like this. Take a look at the sections marked in blue and log in with your godaddy username and password in the area marked in red.

If you are not a godaddy member, first go to godaddy.com and become a free member. Get your username and password and come back to the tdnam auction page.

After logging in with your godaddy username and password in the upper right corner of the tdnam auction page, it will ask you to become a member of the tdnam system in order to participate in the auction on the Tdnam site. So, you will need to add tdnam membership to your godaddy account. When you become a member of Tdnam.com, they may ask you for an annual membership of 4.99 USD.

Remember, we never backorder any domain from godaddy. The operation we are doing here is not backorder. We participate directly in the auction.

If you win domains in tdnam, they will be transferred to your godaddy account. This process takes a week. If the previous owner renews the domain within this period, your payment will be refunded. In some cases, even after the domain is transferred to your account, it can be renewed by the previous owner and taken back from his account.

Any domain name can be renewed by the previous owner even after the registration date has expired. The 'redemption period', which usually lasts 40-45 days, is applied. Godaddy starts and ends the auction without waiting for the redemption period to speed up the transactions. If the previous owner renews the domain during or immediately after the auction, that domain is returned to the previous owner ($9).

It's like taking his organs to the operating room and keeping them on the table before he dies, just because this man will die anyway. If the man is revived at the last moment, he will be saved, but if he does not, all preparations have already been made.

Godaddy's method of procrastination has the following drawbacks:
– If the former owner deliberately leaves the domain to fall, he can see that it goes to a high price in the auction and can extend the domain for 9 dollars after the auction is over or while it is continuing.

– when one of the auctioneers realizes that he cannot win, or if he does not win when the auction ends, he can send an email to the former owner of the domain and bid to buy it.

For example, the domain auction is completed with $2000 and someone else wins. Let 2000 dollars be a price more than I can give. If I can reach the previous owner, he can extend and save this domain for 9 dollars. I'm going to offer the guy $1,000 to do this.

As you can see, there are vulnerabilities in the godaddy system. For this reason, there are many domains that are later extended by the former owner. There are domains that log into your account and then suddenly go back. For these reasons, you don't tell anyone about godaddy auctions. Even after winning, you are not safe. In fact, no domain is safe in a nameless company like godaddy. See the familyalbum.com story.

Auction at Godaddy started 24 days after domain registration expired and lasted for 4 days, but godaddy recently changed these dates. According to the last application, the auction starts 18 days after the domain registration is completed and lasts for 10 days. Auctions are held at TDNAM.com. The link you have already clicked will take you to tdnam.com.

Anyone can participate in Godaddy auctions at any time during the auction. Thousands of domains are auctioned on the Tdnam site, but it's not easy to find the ones that work. On the other hand, the number of domains offered is several hundred. Novice domainers bid early. However, this makes it easier for other researchers to find that domain. If you are bidding on a domain that has never been bid, wait for the last half hour or the last few hours. There is no need to bid days in advance and attract everyone's attention.

Daily example:
Open these pages and click the link marked in red here:
http://emailturk.com/
http://turkfreelancer.com/

  1. If the registry is a company other than godaddy or wild west domains

In this case, only snapnames will be backordered. Does the date appear next to the domain when you search Snapnames.com? If it does go to 3.2. If not, go to 3.1.

3.1. “No, it doesn't.
The date in Snapnames does not occur immediately after the registration date of the domain expires. That's why you need to search snapnames site 15, 30, 45, 60 days after registration expires. You do not take any action after the date is not issued here. The date has to come out.

Now you will say that the date does not appear, but can I still make a backorder? Yes, it will, but in vain. Snapnames system allows to backorder each domain. You can backorder with snapnames for yahoo.com or google.com if you want. If it falls, you will participate in the auction, but there is no guarantee that it will fall because the date does not come out.

It is as meaningful to backorder Google.com as it is to backorder a domain with no date.

3.2. “Yeah, it does.” > Go to number 4.

4. Snapnames Backorder Topic:
4.1. First you sign up for snapnames.com.
During the membership process, they may ask you for credit card information. This company is reliable. You can give the information. Once you win the domain, they will get the money automatically. Winning the domain does not mean "I gave up". They already take card information to prevent this.
4.2 After you become a member, open snapnames.com and log in from the top right corner.
4.3. After logging in, come back to snapnames.com home page
Type the 4.4 domain in the search box and search
4.5. After looking at the price and the date on the page that opens, you check the small box next to the domain and choose "add to cart".
4.6. Finally, you click on the button that says "join" on the right.
4.7. You can click the "my auctions" link on the snapnames.com homepage to track or delete the backorders you've made.
4.8. Alright what now:

4.8.1. If Snapnames fails to capture the domain, nothing will happen. No money has ever been taken from you. You didn't get the domain either.

Now you will say, “When I searched for the domain in snapnames, the auction date was displayed. Why didn't bidding start on that date?". The date was coming out, but that date is the date of the auction if snapnames can catch the domain. If they can't catch it, it means someone else took it.

Domain companies cannot be trusted. Especially small companies may not send the domain to the snapnames system and pass it on to themselves.

4.8.2. If snapnames succeeds in capturing the domain, there are two options: You either backordered that domain from snapnames or others did it too.

4.8.2.1. Only if you have backordered your domain will be yours for the price you see in 4.5 and the date you see in 4.5 (ie the date when the increase should start). There is no increase.

4.8.2.2. If other people have made a backorder, a closed auction is made between these people for the participation of others. The auction starts on the date you see in 4.5 and lasts for 3 days. The highest bidder buys the domain at that price. Others do not pay any money. The winner does not pay any money other than the price they bid in the closed auction.

Snapnames is a reliable company.

Current example:
When I open snapnames.com and search for 'istanbulguitar.com', it says "04-Oct-2007 — $79.00". So the auction will start on October 4, 2007. Before this date, you need to follow the steps in number 4 and add the domain to your account. It would be good to consider it now. There's no point in waiting.

Remember: If you don't see a date when you search for a domain in Snapnames, you don't take action.

In the Snapnames system, you only pay if the domain is transferred to your account. You don't pay for it.

Above, I divided the domain companies into two as godaddy and others. In fact, there are other companies, and some of them have their own auction sites. For example, enom company has an auction site clubdrop.com. There are a few more like this. I didn't want to go into too much detail.

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